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A question of ethics.

Started by svlilioukalani, February 02, 2011, 05:06:26 AM

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bsee

No- more like some good news that an owner was reconnected with a stolen instrument after 10+ years. Don't really care much one way or the other about a dealer 3000 miles away. Hang or reward him as you see fit. I figured that Mica getting involved two weeks ago should have had things moved well along by now. Maybe not.

hydrargyrum

Personally I don't see what all the fuss is here.  If Mica says she's got things under control, I'm sure that everything is being done that is possible.  I'd like to see this guy get his bass back also, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it, and after ten years a few days (or even a few weeks) aren't really going to make that much difference.  Patience is the only course of action here until Mica decides to share more information.

dfung60

On a totally random note, I've been cleaning out a big pile of old guitar magazines this week and happened to see an old Gibson ad with a bunch of sunburst Les Pauls (it was the collection of Gary Richrath who used to play in REO Speedwagon, so you can get a sense of how old the pile I'm digging in is).  This got me reminiscing on Google about famous Les Pauls, and eventually I looked up the famous Peter Green/Gary Moore unburst which is a cherry sunburst that's faded to amber.
 
And, on Google that led to this link, which I had never seen before:
 
  http://guitarcollecting.co.uk/2009/05/20/ronnie-monrose-sues-gary-moore-over-theft-of-59-les-paul/
 
I mean no disrespect for the late Gary Moore, but it's interesting to see that a similar situation has popped up here with two famous guitarists.  
 
The reason I mention it on this thread is the quote in the middle from the (famously unethical) Ed Roman, which sure seems closely tied to this thread.  I'm sure it's random, but reflective of a dealer mentality that time makes these problems go away.
 
David Fung

lbpesq

Wow, I didn't know Ed was a legal expert too!  The man never ceases to amaze me!  How did his store ever go out of business?
 
And as for Montrose, according to the story he drills a hole in every one of his guitars!  The man almost deserves to lose it!  And PLEASE, don't anyone sell him an Alembic for his next excavation project.
 
Bill, tgo

cozmik_cowboy

And a third famous guitartist, David.  One of the players you mention (I'm not familiar with libel law, so I won't say which) received his first & most famous '59 LP from the teacher of a freind of mine just before his first national tour, with the promise of payment after.  10 years later he had not paid, and was denying the deal existed.
 
Peter
"Is not Hypnocracy no other than the aspiration to discover the meaning of Hypnocracy?  Have you heard the one about the yellow dog yet?"
St. Dilbert

"If I could explain it in prose, I wouldn't have had to write the song."
Robt. Hunter

tubeperson

Perhaps Mr. Roman's store went out of business because he sold it to people to similar to him.  You know, birds of a feather.  There is an old salesman(person) joke is that a salesman(person) loves to sell to another saleman(person).  I will say that I have had some decent dealings with Ed, although I felt compelled to buy the Alembic Triple Omega as I sensed he was no longer selling new Alembics.  Sure enough, not only did he stop selling new ones, but he sort of bashed them in comparison to Dingwalls.  What really happened was he made more money from selling Dingwalls. I contacted Mica about Ed's decision to stop repping Alembic new instrumens, and she did not know abot it at that time.  Oh well!


thumbsup

hum......It appears after reading some of Eds rant he didn't actualy knock Alembics but more of Alembics marketing which by the way is similar to how I market in my construction business! I always give the customer many options with a published cost. I think Alembics marketing monthly specials are unique and it apparently works for them quite well! If you have to wait a spell because of backlog orders why cahnge if it works.
 
I wonder whats up with the original story of this post? Any comments?