Oh! Why Stan?

Started by mario_farufyno, January 29, 2009, 12:34:16 PM

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hendixclarke

I am not a Player Hater. I love Stanley's music and believe me, Stanley is my hero [always!]  
 
For as long as Spellbinder basses had been around, I would had expected more analysis from this distinguished body. I would appreciate more  experience and opportunity to test with comments.  
 
I had never heard anyone on this board endorsing them...
 
Alembicans here; had listed their varieties of basses and guitars, and I had yet read anything about Spellbinder's greatness.  
 
WHAT MAKES THE GREAT, COMPARED TO WHAT?
 
How do they measure up to Alembic?
 
I heard members here mentioned their Musicman's, Rickenbacker's, Fender Jazz's, Gibson's, Ibanez's, Kramer's and what-not.  
 
On the otherhand, when someone mentions Spellbinder basses --- I hear nothing but cricket chirps...    
 
It's IRONIC.

hendixclarke

Stanley clearly don't seem to be as aggressively selling the bass (as so much as touring with them or using them as a backup or rehearsal instrument (if anything else...).
 
It's laughable because, Stanley knows his Alembics is his sound, and ain't nothing coming close.
 
Stanley Clarke and Alembic basses is like Evil Knievel with Harley Davidson. They are one in the same. To many years gone by, it just don't look sincere anyway's else.

hendixclarke

From the video, it looks like Stanley's Spellbinder borrows Alembic's a DS-5 (Swichcraft and Nurtrik) 5 pin cables systems.
 
Again I say it's laughable...

oujeebass

I, being a huge Jimmy Page fan, was miffed when I saw him playing a Gibson RD on a Knebworth 79 video I have. It was a bit thin sounding, but he was suffering a bit at that time. I am sure it was given to him.  He only used it on one song.

hendixclarke

Lieber - Stanley had a hand in designing the Spellbinder, aspects of the body design and electronics. So when you all dis as ugly , sounds like crap etc?. you insult Stanley, myself...
 
You know what I say: So What!
 
Nobody is above criticism.  
 
Besides, it's silly to try to sell a Yugo to drivers of Formula 1's, Lamborghini's, and Ferrari's.
 
 
Yugo's SUCK!  (In other words if the shoe fits...)

David Houck

I would like to remind our members here that, from what I have gathered in my time here, the club has as a whole adopted a level of expected decorum and civil discourse.  It has also been my observation that when new members join our community, they are generally welcomed and treated respectfully.
 
Members who have been here for a while and have made numerous posts over the years, tend to know each other to some limited degree based on the threads within which they have corresponded with each other.  A new member, however, has no such reference point; and as a result, there can be a higher probability of miscommunication.  Thus, the need for treating new members with respect and tolerance is even greater than the need to treat our fellow members in general with respect and tolerance.
 
While there have been a number of interesting comments and observations in this thread, I am concerned that perhaps from the viewpoint of a new member, who essentially doesn't know any of the members here, who has no familiarity with the personalities posting to this particular thread (and we do have a wide variety of personalities in our community!), that the tenor of this thread might appear to be a bit negative, a bit less than welcoming.  Thus it would be my recommendation that perhaps before hitting the post button, we each give a little consideration to how our words might be interpreted by a new member of our community who might not be used to one's particular peculiarities with language.
 
Each of us here has a unique view that we can offer; and we can share our views with our friends here, and we can in turn learn from the views of these friends.  And while it is certainly understandable that we may become passionate in expounding our positions, we can share our views with each other without disparaging each other.  Sometimes in the heat of discourse we tend to forget that in a medium such as an internet discussion board, our words can be misinterpreted easily.  It's understandable; it happens all the time.  Communication can be difficult in the best of circumstances, among individuals who have known each other for years and are sitting face to face at the kitchen table.  And internet communication is not the best of circumstances.
 
Again, my concern here is that from the view of a new member, the tenor of this thread may have come to appear less than welcoming; which I'm guessing is not anyone's intention.
 
I hope this post makes some kind of sense.  This communication thing is kind of tough.
 
Thanks,
David

lieber

I am amazed at the conviction and unconditional passion displayed over inanimate objects. Such energy should be redirected to the loving and saving of the innumerable misfortunate abandoned children upon our planet. Everyday, every moment is another unbearable one for them. So lets all focus and prioritize our battles and count our families and our own blessings, please.  
 
 My intent in joining this discussion was merely to shed some light on a lot of misinformation.
 
Kind regards,
 
 Thomas

hendixclarke

Dave,
 
I would had love the same royal treatment when I said something controversial in my first few threads, as a new member... and I was not even selling a competing product.
 
Anyway after all this Dave,... does this means, Lieber gets a hall-pass from answering my questions?

hendixclarke

Lieber - WELCOME TO ALEMBIC!
 
Peace be on to you, my brother. We are one.

artswork99

Thanks for your input and insight here.  I concur that we should all count our own blessings... daily!
Best, Art

David Houck

Hence the maxim, do unto new members as you would have others do unto you when you were a new member.  In other words, if you would have liked the royal treatment, then give freely of the royal treatment to others.  How we were treated at some point in the past isn't necessarily how we should treat others in the present.  In my view, our world seems to work better when we treat each other with respect and compassion, no matter what suffering we may have experienced in our own lives.
 
And on answering questions, there is no requirement that members answer the demands of other members, with the possible exception of pictures of Alembic instruments, which are highly encouraged!
 
Enjoy your day!
David

adriaan

Hal, sorry to interrupt, but your enthousiasm runneth over sometimes. Take a deep breath before posting, think about what you want to say, and after you finish writing read it again before submitting.
 
If you want to ask a question, perhaps it is wise not to second-guess people in the very question you're asking them.

jorge_s

I for one want to thank Mr. Lieber for joining our group.  I very much admire your designs and the link above where you share your association with Doug Irwin as well as the photographs is very fascinating.  Thank you.  -Jorge

richbass939

Thomas, ditto what Jorge said. I'm happy to hear an inside story from someone who is actually involved with developing a product.
Welcome to the club and I hope you will check in regularly.  If you get a chance to correspond with Stanley, please tell him how much respect we have for him here on the club.  A lot of us came to hear about and love Alembic instruments after hearing him play.
Rich

dannobasso

A wonderful and therapeutic practice is to type your post, read it in preview and here's the interesting bit........ don't post it. That way you get out your opinion and don't cause any undo or unintended stress to others.
 If you want a Spellbinder The Low End has some and is accepting bids.
http://www.thelowend.net/thelowend/used-basses.html