Sound equipment in the NY/Ct area

Started by flaxattack, May 17, 2007, 10:45:16 AM

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flaxattack

somehow danno i think you and have different sounds.
thaks

lbpesq

Flax:
 
You might want to give Tim at earcandy cabs a call.  He's very nice and knows a great deal about cabs.  I LOVE the 2x12 custom he did for me.
 
Bill, tgo

flaxattack

i good ole friend of mine swears by the acme b2
ok so whats the deal with ohms?
i skipped electrical shop

dnburgess

2400wattman said: Also, while I was at Will Gunn's shop I was able to try out basses through his two Acme 1x10's(no horn or midrange speaker, gives you the SVT type of response in a small package)
 
Just to clarify - the Acme B1 has 1x10woofer; 1x5 mid; and 1x1 tweet. The mid and the tweet are the same as used in the B2 and B4 - each has its own attenuator, so can be dialed out if desired.
 
Acme also makes sub versions of the B2 and B4 which are the same as the B2 and B4 but without the mid and tweet.

dnburgess

When looking for speaker lines for Green Square Music to carry we selected Acme, Accugroove and Schroeder. Speaker design is very much the art of the compromise (i.e. its impossible to be all things to all people) and we feel these three lines cover all bases (and basses). Also these companies are IMHO owned and run by passionate individuals with great integrity.

tbrannon

David,
 
Can you comment on the new Schroeder cabs?  I've read elsewhere that the new horns/tweeters are a little smoother and warmer than the original cabs.  I'd love to hear your opinion.
 
Toby

bsee

Flax, ohms are important when you're combining multiple speaker cabs and for power amp efficiency.  Almost all bass cabs will be either four or eight ohms.  It's mostly a matter of matching things up.  
 
Looking at the stats on my PLX2402 power amp, it's 700 watts per side stereo into 4 ohms or 425 per side stereo into 8 ohms.  It certainly seems like a 4 ohm speaker cab gets me more power out of the amp.
 
I'm sure that if you do a search, you'll find deep technical discussions on ohms.

bsee

Toby, I own an original Schroeder 1212 and a more recent 21012 Light.  I thought the 1212 had great punch and bottom.  With good pre/power, it reminded me of a portaflex b-15 in tone character, at least with the horn turned down.  
 
The original tweeters were capable of being a bit harsh, though less so than the old SWR goliath I once owned.  You had to be careful to avoid too much click.
 
The newer versions are smoother, though, with more room to turn up without getting to ticky.  The neo speakers seem much more balanced and musical throughout the full frequency range as well.  I really like the cab, the weight, the volume, and how easy it is to hear myself on stage.  That last was the key feature of these designs that created a lot of buzz.  It's great to hear what I am playing from a few feet in front of the cab with two guitars blaring away.

tbrannon

Bob,
 
Thanks for that review.  They'll be on my short list when I get back to the States in July.

bsee

I think they are wonderful gigging cabs, but maybe not for studio recording.  Jorg has a bunch of sound samples on his website now so you can hear the differences between the cabs in his line.  I don't know for sure, but I suspect that these are recorded to represent the cabs rather than compensate for them.  Wouldn't make much sense otherwise.

kilowatt

Another vote here for the Schroeder cabinets. I run a 410 and a 1212 and it is the best system I have ever had. Stage clarity is the best part for me. You can clearly here yourself at any volume. I have had many compliment on how good the rig sounds. If you want to take a ride out to my house, you are more than welcome to give any of my equipment a test run. I also have an Eden Metro and a 410 xlt, plus some old Bag End cabinets (212,and 2-115 cabinets). Shoot me a line if you are interested.
 
Regards,
Pete

flaxattack

thanks all
shroeder seems to be a bit more cashish and the plx is on my short list also
too bad i cant side by side em anywhere....

Bradley Young

Don't forget Bag End. Many here use and love them, and the patent on the ELF system has this mysterious Ron Wickersham character attributed.
 
Bradley

keurosix

Jeff,
Without getting too technical, Ohms is the measure of resistance, a lower number is less resistance, a higher number is more. Typical music reproduction speaker cabs are generally rated at 8 ohms or 4 ohms, sometimes something else. If you are going to use one and oly one cab, you can specify a 4 ohm rating that will put out more sonic power. Of course, you must be sure your amp will work with 4 ohms. Some amps are designed only for 8 ohms, but most professional amps can handle 4 or 2 ohm loads too for more output. When you use 2x 8 ohm cabs, the total ohms will be 1/2, or equal to 4 ohms in parallel wiring (normal). Not only will the amp put out more sound, but also you get more speaker surface area for more wind. Choices, choices.
Kris

flaxattack

am gonna go for the acme low b-2s
good friend said he loves them- is good enough for me
 
anyone wanna chime in on amps please
i see a lot of folks like the plx=2402 which is discontinued...seems like a lot of power to me