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Pierre-Yves you should come to Brazil. We got here a viper called Jararaca Ilhoa (Bothrops insularis - something like vip?re d'isle) that just exists on a single island near coast and are considered brazilian's most dangerous snake. It is a light brown, very intriguing snake. As they live isolated, they are hermaphrodite. Butantan Institute's resarchers are willing to make a new medicines similar to the Capoten with its venom. The problem is that they are endangered and bio-pirates started to steal them now.
 
(Message edited by Mario Farufyno on December 18, 2009)

Hal, thanks for the compliment, but Dave is fully right. We will quickly dead as a Comunity if we move to some issues that touches us that deep. It is wiser to focus on what makes us closer as we can get very passionate on politics or religion. If guidelines were created to settle earthquakes down, lets stick to them.
 
Anyway, I prefer chating face-to-face if I need to say something strong or controvertial. Some subjects are better trade if you can show your eyes and face expression (specially if you, as me and Pierre, are not fluent on current language).  
 
I've learned so many things here that I care much about our board. For that sake I can joyfully shut myself up on some themes. Not a big deal if this prevent us breaking apart. This is not censorship, this is respect. Imo...

[off topic] for Mario: Brasil is too far, I hate jet !!  but I would like to go to Pantanal....
I know Bothrops insularis, but I don't know he was hermaphrodite. He live on Ilha da Queimada Grande.
Thank's for the post. Sorry Dave for off topic post

Here is my car, enough big to transport my gear!  

 

Pierreyves, Bill and Mario. I've also been interested in Reptiles all my life and keep snakes. In the house we have my son's corn snake, my royal python (approx 4feet) and my Boa Constrictor (approx 9feet). When I get a chance I'll take some pics and start a new thread.
 
Graeme

Cadillacs arent Eco friendly but the room is needed while loading the drums too

My Jeep Wrangler (93 YJ) isn't eco friendly either.
 
When I travel with my upright during cold weather and the top is up I need to remove the passenger seat to get it to fit!

My Miata gets better mileage (& is more fun to drive), but our Highlander hauls a LOT more equipment!
 
Pierre:  Striking snakes!  Are the ones in the first link Hognose snakes?  
 
Bill, tgo

lol !!! it's a topic about what at the end ?  
I find it funny !! Mixed topic with eco cars, eco gear, eco snakes !!!
Bill, my snakes are adders, horned adders from Europe (Spain & Greece), they are venomous. Hognose is non venomous, colubrid snake from USA, we bred hognose in europe too.
The second link show a copperhead or cottonmouth family snake (Agkistrodon), dangerous, fast & furious, but very nice, who lives in north Mexico.
All my animals are captive bred. I give to eat only dead mouse.

Pierre:
 
Ever been bit by one of them?
 
Bill,tgo

Bill,
yes when I was 20, three times!
One with copperhead from Florida (the most pain I never feel, very painfully bite), one with european adder, one with very dangerous african adder.
Nothing, arm and hand with pain and just one finger wich is distorded (?) but no problem to play bass fortunately !!

Diamond in the back,  
sun-roof-top,  
digging in the scene  
with a gangster lean...  
 
#12, you have my Father's favorite brand. I can't tell you how many models and colors he purchased over the span of more than 50 years of his driving.

my dad was a cadillac man too.

my dad was a fan of Aston Martin DB5
He had two.
 

LOL!!!!
 
I'll rest my case...
 
(Message edited by the_jester on December 19, 2009)